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might vote next week to raise the debt ceiling for even three months. there is a very muted reaction and what to watch here are how people are buying etfs. this is the s&p 500. you can buy it in a single stock and you might say, oh, gee, there is a move there to the far right on the upside when the announcement came. but it is a very, very narrow amplitude. very narrow range of trading. that's about three points on the s&p 500. the volume did pick up and we will have volume towards the heavy side today. if you think that is good news pushing the debt ceiling out for stocks and i think generally would you look at it as good news, it certainly is fairly muted here. as for the major indices for the week, what simon was just talking about, there are deeper cyclical changes. big industrial names have been generally outperforming and that is very good news, if you think the global economy, those stocks would more closer would the global economy. >> you get this, this real tight hugging of the flat line friday. monday, tuesday, wednesday and then again today.
might vote next week to raise the debt ceiling for even three months. there is a very muted reaction and what to watch here are how people are buying etfs. this is the s&p 500. you can buy it in a single stock and you might say, oh, gee, there is a move there to the far right on the upside when the announcement came. but it is a very, very narrow amplitude. very narrow range of trading. that's about three points on the s&p 500. the volume did pick up and we will have volume towards the...
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but i think at the end of the day, the deal made is a debt ceiling increase. but republicans will go through with those sequester cuts. >> yeah. if i could just come. jump in real quick. brian, bandy, jumping 06 of what jimmy had to say here, let's not forget, defaulting on the principle and interest obligation says separate conversation from defaulting on things to other people. say, sending out social security checks. in the context of quote unquote, defaulting on our debt, i'm with jimmy p. as well. missing an interest payment, a very low probability. >> that where some of the confusion seems to be, steve. exact lit public understanding. that why we are here at cnbc to what the risk really is. is someone not going to get their social security check? is the post office not going to be paid? what would happen first? >> brian, a lot of people don't understand because it is complicated. neither side of this depate want you to understand the reality here. on the one hand, the administration wants you to -- doesn't want you to know there are two options here. def
but i think at the end of the day, the deal made is a debt ceiling increase. but republicans will go through with those sequester cuts. >> yeah. if i could just come. jump in real quick. brian, bandy, jumping 06 of what jimmy had to say here, let's not forget, defaulting on the principle and interest obligation says separate conversation from defaulting on things to other people. say, sending out social security checks. in the context of quote unquote, defaulting on our debt, i'm with...
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you pay your debts first and then you deal with other spending. the president's tried to turn that upside down by saying he would cancel the debt. he can't do it. he won't do it. he's lying when he says that's what he will do. i think we have a conversation over the next two months reminding the american people that we will pay our debts but we won't pay obama's crazy overspending. >> the people are in charge. whether it's jack lew or tim geithner if you remember what happened at the end of 2011, it was an issue where you're going to be watching on tv that the soldiers that protect our freedom, are they going to get their check? soldiers that came back wounded from the first gulf war, are they going to get their check? that is going to be the issue on the front page, grover, is it not? >> and august of 2011 we had all the same screaming. i did all the television shows where people said taxpayers are causing the problems. i said the president is. we won, he lost. we got the spending cuts which he's trying to fight still but he got his debt ceiling
you pay your debts first and then you deal with other spending. the president's tried to turn that upside down by saying he would cancel the debt. he can't do it. he won't do it. he's lying when he says that's what he will do. i think we have a conversation over the next two months reminding the american people that we will pay our debts but we won't pay obama's crazy overspending. >> the people are in charge. whether it's jack lew or tim geithner if you remember what happened at the end...
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., much hinges on how washington handles this debt ceiling next. but not all, fitch said that problem is we never seem to get around to deals with the problem behind that mess. quoting fitch a riley, fundamental credit strengths are eroded by large studily declining structure budget deficit, and high and rising public debt. what fitch is not saying, but almost screaming is, the washington sons of fitches are doing not about it, they screamed it. after the cliff, get ready for the crash. i'm not surprised we could still be cut. i'm surprised that fitch has not already done so, john campbell said that triple a rated countries do not we behave this way. i'm surprised it has not already happened. what do you think? >> i know, i just, you know there isal this talk if we get into a big fight over trying to reduce entitlements and making a long-term solution to this, that fitch or some rating agencies may cut our credit rating at this point. if that is what they are doing, they have it backwards. what they should do is they should look at reducing our cre
., much hinges on how washington handles this debt ceiling next. but not all, fitch said that problem is we never seem to get around to deals with the problem behind that mess. quoting fitch a riley, fundamental credit strengths are eroded by large studily declining structure budget deficit, and high and rising public debt. what fitch is not saying, but almost screaming is, the washington sons of fitches are doing not about it, they screamed it. after the cliff, get ready for the crash. i'm not...
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on the debt ceiling yet. we have no idea what sequestration would mean. apple is leading the market. actually gotten killed. all of these things would be told and needed to be in place in order for the market to go up and are not. i think the story here is very low expectations and investors looking at that three-year number, five-year number and saying the market is way more hospitable than i thought it would be and i need to do something different than what i've been doing all this time. >> all right. rick santelli, your take on this day. your landscape is bigger than just equities. treasury yields have been ticking up. currencies are going higher against the dollar and oil is going higher. what do you make of what's going on today? >> well, one thing just said that has a common denominator with all of those, of course, is liquefying and central bank activity whether it's bank of japan, europe, we see interest rates are up. went from 180 to testing 190. the bund violated 160, hasn't done that for a while. e
on the debt ceiling yet. we have no idea what sequestration would mean. apple is leading the market. actually gotten killed. all of these things would be told and needed to be in place in order for the market to go up and are not. i think the story here is very low expectations and investors looking at that three-year number, five-year number and saying the market is way more hospitable than i thought it would be and i need to do something different than what i've been doing all this time....
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everyone i talk to is saying i'll deal with the debt ceiling when i get there. actually, if there was a lot on worry there, we wouldn't be going, budding up against 5 1/2 year lows. clearly, people are not paying as much attention to it right now and now we have the gun thing going on out of washington, d.c. so even the people in washington themselves are putting it almost on the back burner for another few weeks. once a week or so, you get an easy statement out of somebody. but i think overall, the market is trading like the market should off the things that matter to the market. the debt ceiling will be a short lift. >> i word when the average person gets engaged again. i wonder how many individuals at home are saying, hon fee, we own some united healthcare. we've been buying it because of obama care and we know everybody is going to be added somehow to be covered. i just don't see that type of interest to -- it's professionals that are trading the market. it's not -- individuals are still not in. >> i agree with you to a point. >> you say something about appl
everyone i talk to is saying i'll deal with the debt ceiling when i get there. actually, if there was a lot on worry there, we wouldn't be going, budding up against 5 1/2 year lows. clearly, people are not paying as much attention to it right now and now we have the gun thing going on out of washington, d.c. so even the people in washington themselves are putting it almost on the back burner for another few weeks. once a week or so, you get an easy statement out of somebody. but i think...
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there is the debt ceiling to have to deal with, there is government spending that expires in march and those automatic spending cuts, sequestration is supposed to hit the federal budget. and right now it appears a strategy that republicans are beginning to coalesce around, perhaps a short-term debt ceiling increase, pass that through the house with spending cuts, deal with the other elements of government spending and then set up a protracted argument or debate over the debt ceiling going forward. as republicans say, when it comes to their strategy, cutting spending is imperative. melissa: there's no celebration the fact we're a nation of $16 trillion in debt and you have someone in the white house that says to do the one thing that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and that is raise the debt ceiling with no change in the future? that is actually an absurd argument i don't think any householder in a state run well operates like that. >> house budget committee chairman spoke to reporters a short while ago saying this to work in the strategies on all this trying to identify the spend
there is the debt ceiling to have to deal with, there is government spending that expires in march and those automatic spending cuts, sequestration is supposed to hit the federal budget. and right now it appears a strategy that republicans are beginning to coalesce around, perhaps a short-term debt ceiling increase, pass that through the house with spending cuts, deal with the other elements of government spending and then set up a protracted argument or debate over the debt ceiling going...
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ceiling. the deal not all worked out just yet. but apparently it this will not require the spending cuts that house republicans had wanted. just released fox news poll finds that 69% favor raising the debt limit only if there are major spending cuts involved. and 23% say it's reckless not to raise it regardless. the poll also shows more than 8 in 10 think government spending is out of control. only 11% believes it's being managed carefully. mike immanuel tracking developments on the hill tonight. what's behind this house republican plan. >> bill, a lot of g.o.p. frustration has been based on the fact the senate has not passed a budget. so republicans are trying to force it house speaker john boehner told house members, quote: before there is any long-term debt alowe time for a budget to get done. >> he our hope is to pass something very early so the senate can take action as well. i wouldn't put any jeopardizing of the economy there. shows that it is a very rational, put us on a better path an
ceiling. the deal not all worked out just yet. but apparently it this will not require the spending cuts that house republicans had wanted. just released fox news poll finds that 69% favor raising the debt limit only if there are major spending cuts involved. and 23% say it's reckless not to raise it regardless. the poll also shows more than 8 in 10 think government spending is out of control. only 11% believes it's being managed carefully. mike immanuel tracking developments on the hill...
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with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. talk didn't come here to about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public psyche in a way i have never seen before. the image of first graders, not only shot, but riddled w
with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. talk didn't come here to about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they all are today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score,...
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with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they allr today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that score, i owe an incredible debt of gratitude to you at the head table and those of you in the room. i know we don't have you nan hit in this ballroom nor do we in any ballroom, but we all acknowledge that we have to do something. we have to act. and i hope we all agree, there is a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in newtown 34 days ago cannot be continued to be tolerated. that tragedy has affected the public in a way i have never seen before. the image of first graders, not only shot, but riddled wit
with the debt ceiling and we may meet the goal which we set out to do, which is to have roughly a $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and to put us on that path. but i didn't come here to talk about any of those important subjects today, because as important as they allr today we have a more urgent and immediate call and that is how to deal with the epidemic of gun violence in america. you all know the statistics better than anyone so i'm not going to repeat them. on that...
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at one point if you remember, the president was hoping he could get a debt ceiling deal tied to the fiscal cliff negotiation. that didn't happen. the republicans gave up that negotiation. but they're hoping that the debt ceiling raising will give them the leverage that they need to get what they want when it comes to spending cuts. the president hopes though that he can by delegitimizing this idea of having the debt ceiling as a debate, have them have no leverage going into the deficit-cutting discussion or at least a lot less leverage. >> bill: the other big topic, the only other topic actually raised at the news conference yesterday other than whether or not you elect a party, president likes to have a party. was the issue of guns where the president was not specific because he hasn't seen -- or wasn't ready to list all of the recommendations that may have come out of the biden task force. but the president did express and repeat his resolve to do something about this issue of gun violence. no doubt about that, was there? >> no. while he put off getting into the details a little bit, he
at one point if you remember, the president was hoping he could get a debt ceiling deal tied to the fiscal cliff negotiation. that didn't happen. the republicans gave up that negotiation. but they're hoping that the debt ceiling raising will give them the leverage that they need to get what they want when it comes to spending cuts. the president hopes though that he can by delegitimizing this idea of having the debt ceiling as a debate, have them have no leverage going into the deficit-cutting...
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ceiling deal. that is a sentiment echoed by the president on numerous occasions since he was reelected. republicans of course in the house are set to go on their retreat this week. their key objective is to find unity. that is the ultimate object tiff for the retreat. without unity and republicans are divided in house they stand no chance of blocking any tax increases that democrats are so intent on. jenna: we'll watch in the weeks to come, doug, thank you. >> reporter: okay. jon: new troubles for boeing's airliners. troubles grounding all the 787s in japan's after one of the jets was forced to make a emergency landing today. dan springer is in seattle with the details on what happened. none of these planes have crashed, no serious injuries but still a big problem for boeing, huh? >> reporter: that's right. for more perspective, jon, worldwide there are six 787s flying. four of them left to the u.s. or coming to the u.s.. this is not a worldwide panic. this latest incident happened in western japan
ceiling deal. that is a sentiment echoed by the president on numerous occasions since he was reelected. republicans of course in the house are set to go on their retreat this week. their key objective is to find unity. that is the ultimate object tiff for the retreat. without unity and republicans are divided in house they stand no chance of blocking any tax increases that democrats are so intent on. jenna: we'll watch in the weeks to come, doug, thank you. >> reporter: okay. jon: new...
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understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded? it happened before. remember 2011, when standard & poor's did it. that hit markets and the wider economy hard, but it didn't cause interest rates to increase. this time could be different, however, because the rest of the world is getting its act together. even successful businesses like ford are worried. here's what ceo alan mulally told me today. >> i think the most important thing to your point is that we come together around a solution that allows us to live within our means, to reduce our budget deficits, and also to deal with our trade deficits, and create an environment where the business
understand that fitch is not just looking for an 11th hour debt ceiling deal that sets the table for another mini crisis down the road. the federal government hit the debt limit as you know on december 31st. the treasury is using so-called extraordinary measures to pay its bills through mid-february or early march. now, fitch predicts washington will extend the debt ceiling despite the current war of words between president obama and republicans in congress. what happens if we get downgraded?...
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was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high- income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched underclass. we have had the biggest increases of any quality by far, and we've had the least political response of any high- income countries, so we are standing out on our own. this has been a 30-year trend of soaring in comes at the top, stagnation in the middle, and falling through the floor on the bottom, and the political system has refused to address this for 30 years. so we have reached a calamitous situation in this country, but the fact of the matter is nothing that was done at the fiscal cliff and what lies ahead most likely
was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high- income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched...
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. >> the debt ceiling is still around. >> easily, though. >> the debt ceiling is still around. you are still dealing with that and, of course, the sequester issue. there are a lot of questions about what happens. we're speccing to run into that debt ceiling sometime between february 15th and march 1st. in the meantime, let's talk about corporate news. aig is suiciding maiden lane over lawsuit rights. it's the federal vehicle created during aig's bailout. at issue is whether the insurer transferred its rights to sue for losses that it incurred on its troubled bonds when it sold $2 billion in securities to the fed in 20308. aig is preserving its right to sue the federal government and other debts. >> fed chairman ben bernanke is going to speak and answer questions at the university of michigan. in d.c., president obama is said to be forging ahead on a wide ranging plan to overhaul the immigration plan this year. this includes a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the country. immigrants would have to pay fines and back taxes. it would require businesses to veri
. >> the debt ceiling is still around. >> easily, though. >> the debt ceiling is still around. you are still dealing with that and, of course, the sequester issue. there are a lot of questions about what happens. we're speccing to run into that debt ceiling sometime between february 15th and march 1st. in the meantime, let's talk about corporate news. aig is suiciding maiden lane over lawsuit rights. it's the federal vehicle created during aig's bailout. at issue is whether...
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so they are putting it right back on congress, you've got to deal with this debt ceiling issue and they think they can win that argument. obviously we're going to hear questions about guns. we flknow that the president's people say he is committed to the assault weapons ban, magazine ban on the magazines and also to background checks, whether or not those and other issues can get through, they don't think that there's much he can do by executive action. >> andrea mitchell, see you at 1:00. thanks for joining me. >> thanks, thomas. >>> want to take you back now to the white house. peter alexander is standing by now. now we're getting word the press conference has been pushed back to 11:40. just to give people behind the curtains look here. 11:15 and then 11:30 and now 11:40. i'm saying hi noon. >> high noon sounds good in is often the way this plays out. this morning it came as a surprise to most of the in the white house press corp. was was taking place tonight. he hadn't been given a head unthere would be a news conference with the today until just this morning. really there hasn't bee
so they are putting it right back on congress, you've got to deal with this debt ceiling issue and they think they can win that argument. obviously we're going to hear questions about guns. we flknow that the president's people say he is committed to the assault weapons ban, magazine ban on the magazines and also to background checks, whether or not those and other issues can get through, they don't think that there's much he can do by executive action. >> andrea mitchell, see you at...
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. >> or maybe the debt ceiling kills the dell deal. marty, last word, do you think it will happen? >> it looks like a stretch. it's a big deal. you would have to have several lbl firms involved in it. they have to raise a lot of debt. it's a stretch. >> marty of fridson vision, thank you. it's a stretch, he says. >> and the fundamentals don't go away, either. >>> still to come, the new corvette scores a win for general motors. ♪ [ male announcer ] some day, your life will flash before your eyes. make it worth watching. introducing the 2013 lexus ls. an entirely new pursuit. >>> welcome back to "worldwide exchange." if you're just joining us, i'm kelly evans. >> and i'm ross westgate. >> urging action, obama, bernanke and geithner all say congress must raise the u.s. debt ceiling or cause irreparable harm to the economy. fitch joins in and saying any delay will cause a formal review. >>> dell eye tess private life. reports say the pcmaker has been in talkses with several private equity firms in recent months about a possible buyout. >>. >> announcer: you're watching "worldwide exc
. >> or maybe the debt ceiling kills the dell deal. marty, last word, do you think it will happen? >> it looks like a stretch. it's a big deal. you would have to have several lbl firms involved in it. they have to raise a lot of debt. it's a stretch. >> marty of fridson vision, thank you. it's a stretch, he says. >> and the fundamentals don't go away, either. >>> still to come, the new corvette scores a win for general motors. ♪ [ male announcer ] some day,...
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on the debt ceiling, even accusing republicans of an unfortunate metaphor, holding a gun at the head of the american people, as he put it. meanwhile, treasury secretary tim of the airline's the united states to default on payment as soon as mid february. for more of the president's is covered son joined by former reagan political director ed rollins, former pleasant to have clinton political adviser. let's start with the president's news conference today. the president seemed, well, you characterize it. he seemed to fill in the blank " >> i would say congeal. meaning that he tried to portray himself as reasonable and said that there was now negotiating and the debt ceiling, lesley because he is in a strong position politically in that the most would agree that the republicans are showing no signs of real life. lou: do you agree? >> i think the republicans rolled over and play dead. at this point in time they will draw a line in the sand. no believe they should shut government down, but i think this is a position where they need to make their case known. the president said over and ov
on the debt ceiling, even accusing republicans of an unfortunate metaphor, holding a gun at the head of the american people, as he put it. meanwhile, treasury secretary tim of the airline's the united states to default on payment as soon as mid february. for more of the president's is covered son joined by former reagan political director ed rollins, former pleasant to have clinton political adviser. let's start with the president's news conference today. the president seemed, well, you...
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with the debt ceiling, the need to deal with the looming she quester and the house republicans' concern that if they do anything on tax reform, that they may leave themselves up to the senate not to take action, and, therefore, they've taken an unpopular vote for no reason. why are you optimistic on tax reform? >> first of all, we have to resolve this debt can crisis in terms of -- this debt crisis in terms of sequestration and in terms of the full faith and credit of the u.s. in the next six weeks. we aren't going to accomplish tax reform in the next six weeks. so we have a deadline that i think cannot basically be moved for what we need to do. and so that will leave us adequate time to tackle the longerrer-range problems -- the longer-range problems. we're not going to accomplish tax reform in the next six weeks. but we need to, essentially, deal with the sequester, essentially find a balanced approach that's going to raise a trillion dollars or close to it. and so that's why i have some optimism, because we need to face up to the next six weeks, resolve it and then move on. >> rick?
with the debt ceiling, the need to deal with the looming she quester and the house republicans' concern that if they do anything on tax reform, that they may leave themselves up to the senate not to take action, and, therefore, they've taken an unpopular vote for no reason. why are you optimistic on tax reform? >> first of all, we have to resolve this debt can crisis in terms of -- this debt crisis in terms of sequestration and in terms of the full faith and credit of the u.s. in the next...
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ceiling deal. and by the way, the president's intransigence on this, this idea that he won't negotiate, republicans are looking at this and saying, well, we actually did get a fair amount of spending cuts the last time we fought on the debt ceiling in the budget control act of last year. the president said that this deal now would have to include an extension of the debt ceiling that they just got to avoid the fiscal cliff. well, he ultimately folded on that. so as a tactical matter, even in their minority position, they can look at this and see, well, there is some gain to be gotten here if we keep pushing on this. i think the flip side of this is also a big challenge for the president. if he really wants to unshackle the economy, if he wants to get more robust economic growth, does he not want to be more proactive about dealing with some of these entitlements, with dealing with the budget picture, even where he has real problems with his supposed, you know, partners in this to republicans? does h
ceiling deal. and by the way, the president's intransigence on this, this idea that he won't negotiate, republicans are looking at this and saying, well, we actually did get a fair amount of spending cuts the last time we fought on the debt ceiling in the budget control act of last year. the president said that this deal now would have to include an extension of the debt ceiling that they just got to avoid the fiscal cliff. well, he ultimately folded on that. so as a tactical matter, even in...
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there's been three or four deficit deals reached during debt ceiling negotiations. that's what they've been used for in the past. in fact, you voted no on raising the debt ceiling in 2006, and some other things. and then to see him actually, he looked shocked that his loyal cadre of acolytes that someone would actually broach the subject that, you know, that he actually had a tough time answering. >> i think it shows the position he's in, though. he gets attacked from the right and the left. >> he doesn't get attack. the questions i want asked are never asked of him anywhere. >> he should come on "squawk." >> that's not going to happen. >> i'll get out. is that possible? >> no. >> i had a story but we'll talk about that one later. >> what's your story? >> we'll do it later in the broadcast. >> about nerds? >> what else would it be about? you want me to talk to here? i'm going to talk to here. coming up this morning's top stories, plus we're going to hop behind the wheel with nissan ceo carlos ghosn at the detroit auto show. first check this out, double the guest hos
there's been three or four deficit deals reached during debt ceiling negotiations. that's what they've been used for in the past. in fact, you voted no on raising the debt ceiling in 2006, and some other things. and then to see him actually, he looked shocked that his loyal cadre of acolytes that someone would actually broach the subject that, you know, that he actually had a tough time answering. >> i think it shows the position he's in, though. he gets attacked from the right and the...
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the president simply will not offer any compromise on federal spending that might get a debt deal done. on guns as we just heard, is he threatening executive orders. so i think the president simply wants to damage the republicans rather than solve complicated problems, at least at this juncture. joining us from washington with his take fox news political analyst charles krauthammer. i see it as a chess game. rather than both parties working together to get some gun legislation that might help folks control criminals in that area and rather than getting the debt ceiling done with some, you know, meaningful cuts in spending, the president says, you know, i'm not even going to bother. i want to alienate the republicans so that people will be angry with them. am i wrong? he has been doing that since elections day, i wrote a column ever since september pointing out entire strategy for the fiscal cliff was to split the republicans. it had nothing to do his offers had nothing to do with solving the fiscal issue or solving the debt. he showed nothing to solve the debt since he was elected in 2
the president simply will not offer any compromise on federal spending that might get a debt deal done. on guns as we just heard, is he threatening executive orders. so i think the president simply wants to damage the republicans rather than solve complicated problems, at least at this juncture. joining us from washington with his take fox news political analyst charles krauthammer. i see it as a chess game. rather than both parties working together to get some gun legislation that might help...
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he closed the deal on the debt ceiling with mitch mcconnell. he was the spokesman for the gun initiative. these are high-profile roles that presidents don't have to give to vice presidents. this is how important joe biden has become in this administration. >> they clearly have an incredible relationship. gloria borger just spent some time with the vice president. gloria, if you can hear me, talk a little about what we're seeing right now. >> i think you're seeing vintage joe biden. this is the joe biden that those of us who have covered him for quite some time know pretty well. i mean, it's unvarnished. this is not his parade but he's kind of turning it into his parade. i think he knows, wolf, that this could be his last parade unless he does run again. he wouldn't commit to me one way or another. i think he's surely thinking about it. we were talking here about how fit joe biden is. for a man his age. when i was -- i interviewed him in the old executive office building on friday. look at him run. and that's how he walks down the hall at the ol
he closed the deal on the debt ceiling with mitch mcconnell. he was the spokesman for the gun initiative. these are high-profile roles that presidents don't have to give to vice presidents. this is how important joe biden has become in this administration. >> they clearly have an incredible relationship. gloria borger just spent some time with the vice president. gloria, if you can hear me, talk a little about what we're seeing right now. >> i think you're seeing vintage joe biden....
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was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high-income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched underclass. we have had the biggest increases of any quality by leastnd we've had the political response of any high- income countries, so we are standing out on our own. this has been a 30-year trend of soaring in comes at the top, stagnation in the middle, and falling through the floor on the bottom, and the political system has refused to address this for 30 years. so we have reached a calamitous situation in this country, but the fact of the matter is nothing that was done at the fiscal cliff and what lies ahead most likely will not
was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high-income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched...
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that we did, were those occurring at the same time as debt ceiling raises? >> they all do. >> we've heard that that -- i'm not going to accept that, not going to do it, not the way it's done. we're not a banana republic. how many can you recall, deficit deals were affected? it's something that's done, is it not? >> standard operating procedure. we all learned about the power of the purse of democracy. back then, it used to be taxes because they couldn't borrow. now, you can borrow. taxes aren't the only strains what government can spend. the parliament and congress has to be able to control the borrowing level. that's government 101. >> is zit in g-- dis in geingeny we've already been to the restaurant and trying to stiff the bill? it wasn't the $800 stimulus or any of the things the president's done, it's congress? >> first, you're raising debt limits to cover future spending. fact one is the money hasn't been spent yet. that's not true. >> it's sort of disassembling. >> that's a good word for it. the second fact is congress hasn't approved the money. no co
that we did, were those occurring at the same time as debt ceiling raises? >> they all do. >> we've heard that that -- i'm not going to accept that, not going to do it, not the way it's done. we're not a banana republic. how many can you recall, deficit deals were affected? it's something that's done, is it not? >> standard operating procedure. we all learned about the power of the purse of democracy. back then, it used to be taxes because they couldn't borrow. now, you can...
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we've gone over the cliff, now we have the debt ceiling. but, you know, even if they get over those two short-term problems, you still have got the problem of a massive deficit, which is going to have to be reigned in. at some point, you're going to get a fiscal squeeze in america and that is going to put a break on what is not very far from economic growth. i think you'll have that which is always something that is going to be there in the background. you have a lot of debt, as well, still in the private sector, which needs to be fluffed off. there's a deraef raejing that you've been seeing right across the western world is still going to go on, i think, for the best part of this decade. >> and we heard leading up to this election that rarely has a u.s. president been elected with such high levels of unemployment. what was different this time? >> oh, i think it had something to do with the candidate he was facing not being able to energize the public. but i also think, look, reflation? the public loves that, right? free money. >> but do th
we've gone over the cliff, now we have the debt ceiling. but, you know, even if they get over those two short-term problems, you still have got the problem of a massive deficit, which is going to have to be reigned in. at some point, you're going to get a fiscal squeeze in america and that is going to put a break on what is not very far from economic growth. i think you'll have that which is always something that is going to be there in the background. you have a lot of debt, as well, still in...
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with the debt ceiling, we may very well be able to meet the goal we set out to do, which is to have roughly $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and put us on that past. i didn't come here to talk about any of this important subjects today because as important as they all are today we have a mortgage and indie media call and that is how to do with the epidemic of gun violence in america. the one of the statistics better than anyone, so i'm not going to repeat it. on that score i might add ale in a credible threat of gratitude to many of you at the table as well as those of you in the room. i know we don't have unanimity and this ballroom, nor do we have any ballroom, but we all know, it wanted knowledges we have to do some gain. we have to act and i hope we all agree there's a need to respond to the carnage on our streets and in our schools. i hope we all agree that mass shootings like the one we witnessed in your newton cannot be tolerated. that tragedy in public life has affected the public safety in a way that i've never seen before. the image of first graders,
with the debt ceiling, we may very well be able to meet the goal we set out to do, which is to have roughly $4 trillion cut over 10 years in the long-term deficit and put us on that past. i didn't come here to talk about any of this important subjects today because as important as they all are today we have a mortgage and indie media call and that is how to do with the epidemic of gun violence in america. the one of the statistics better than anyone, so i'm not going to repeat it. on that score...
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ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure, it's a sign that the u.s. government can't pay its own bills, it's a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies. leadership means that the buck stops here. instead, washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today on the backs of our children and grandchildren, therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase america's debt limit. in 2008, candidate obama blamed president bush and called the growing debt unpatriotic. >> number 43 added 4 trillion dollars by his lonesome so that we no
ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a...
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with the debt screaming and the -- ceiling and the sequesters. house republicans concerned if they do anything about tax reform. they may leave it open to the senate and not taking action and taken the vote for no reason. are you optimistic? >> first of all, i have -- we have to reself the debt crisis in terms of sequestration. and in term of the full, faith, and credit in the next six weeks. we aren't going to accomplish tax reform in the next six weeks. so we have a deadline that i think cannot be basically moved for what we need to do in the next six weeks. that will leave us adequate time to tackling the longer range problems. we're not going tackle tax reform in the next six weeks. we need to essentially deal with the sequestration, specially find a balanced approach that is going to raise a trillion dollars or close to. so that's why i have some optimism because we need to face up to the next six weeks, resolve it, and -- [inaudible] >> rick. [inaudible] by conflict -- i want to ask you about one of the big things the intiement element refo
with the debt screaming and the -- ceiling and the sequesters. house republicans concerned if they do anything about tax reform. they may leave it open to the senate and not taking action and taken the vote for no reason. are you optimistic? >> first of all, i have -- we have to reself the debt crisis in terms of sequestration. and in term of the full, faith, and credit in the next six weeks. we aren't going to accomplish tax reform in the next six weeks. so we have a deadline that i...
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ceiling in his mind. if he doesn't create spending or a spending cut, what happens? we've come to a stand still? >> look, the first move, the house republicans, the house has to move first, and i think we've got to show the country we're serious about curbing back spending and we've got to send that over to the senate and the senate has to act. remember, it's more than three or four years now since the senate has actually passed a budget. not only do we have problems getting a budget out of the white house, but the democrats are producing-- >> you're working this out for me. you send it over to the senate, what happens. >> the classic let's not wait till the deadline. the senate has to act. if week show in the house we're acting responsibly, curbing back spending and putting ourselves on a trajectory and cutting the deficit and over the course of time balancing the budget we'll be the responsible party. >> greta: the president says he's not going to do that. >> the president says i'll be irrelevant. >> gr
ceiling in his mind. if he doesn't create spending or a spending cut, what happens? we've come to a stand still? >> look, the first move, the house republicans, the house has to move first, and i think we've got to show the country we're serious about curbing back spending and we've got to send that over to the senate and the senate has to act. remember, it's more than three or four years now since the senate has actually passed a budget. not only do we have problems getting a budget out...
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ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure, it's a sign that the u.s. government can't pay its own bills, it's a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies. leadership means that the buck stops here. instead, washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today on the backs of our children and grandchildren, therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase america's debt limit. in 2008, candidate obama blamed president bush and called the growing debt unpatriotic. >> number 43 added 4 trillion dollars by his lonesome so that we no
ceiling. >> so i want to be clear about this, the debt ceiling is not a question of authorizing more spending. raising the debt ceiling does not authorize more spending, it simply allows the country to pay for spending that congress has already committed to. >> mike: well, according to the congressional record, in 2006, then senator barack obama had this statement just before a debt ceiling vote and i quote, the fact that we are here today to debate raising america's debt limit is a...
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you and i are of the view we shouldn't have gotten into this because the debt ceiling should be part of the prior deals. >> as it was in every previous administration. >> right. >> as we know. eliot, good to visit with you this morning. talk to you again soon. >> have a good one >> bill: eliott spitzer, former governor of new york. former co- -- or host here on current tv. good friend, political commentate commentate, writes for slight, follow on twitter @eliotspitzer. [ music ] destined to take them over. ♪ ♪ the sirius xm satellite radio in the 2013 ram 1500. engineered to move heaven and earth. guts. glory. ram. the new ram 1500. motor trend's 2013 truck of the year. @Ñhd with the explosive yet reflective, jerry springer and we'll find out which one of these camera guys is a secret baby daddy. >> only on current tv. [ music ] >> this is "the bill press show." >> all right. in the next hour, evan mcmorrison turo from talking points memo in studio as a friend of bill and we'll be joined by congress woman january shakowski from illinois, talking about the government shutdown and
you and i are of the view we shouldn't have gotten into this because the debt ceiling should be part of the prior deals. >> as it was in every previous administration. >> right. >> as we know. eliot, good to visit with you this morning. talk to you again soon. >> have a good one >> bill: eliott spitzer, former governor of new york. former co- -- or host here on current tv. good friend, political commentate commentate, writes for slight, follow on twitter...
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he still faces an unresolved fiscal situation and looks like republicans may be extending the debt ceiling by a few months but he still has major budget cuts to deal with this spring. do you see his relationship with republicans improving at all as they try to fix this crisis? >> it is going to be a real confrontation. the republicans did blink. that's exactly right, bianna, and said they don't want this confrontation over the debt limit, that does supposed to hit february and they are going to extend it, as he said, probably in april. the president will sign that which gives them a space to try to come up again with some kind of big budget deal before those across-the-board budget cuts hit in march, and the government is set to shut down at the end of march. there is no question that these big fiscal issues, taxes and spending are going to define the first quarter of the president's second term. >> george, talk about this term, the second term curse. we -- reagan had iran-contra. nixon, of course, had watergate. clinton had monica lewinsky. why is it that second terms tend to go sour? >>
he still faces an unresolved fiscal situation and looks like republicans may be extending the debt ceiling by a few months but he still has major budget cuts to deal with this spring. do you see his relationship with republicans improving at all as they try to fix this crisis? >> it is going to be a real confrontation. the republicans did blink. that's exactly right, bianna, and said they don't want this confrontation over the debt limit, that does supposed to hit february and they are...
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with regard to the debt ceiling, here we go again. the republican party, if it goes along with this deal in my opinion ought to change its name to the caveman party and boehner and mcconnell would be the cavemen in chief, because every time we come to this debt ceiling what do the republicans do? they give in. and every amount of money that this country spends is showing it's unsustainable. we've got to reform them and get our budget in order and we've got to get our spending under control. host: lori who is one of the 65 people on facebook who has commented on this this morning says that this makes the seventh debt ceiling plays the obama's term while the democratically-controlled senate hasn't passed a budget. it seems silly -- logical to me at but he'll -- by the way, it gives an advertisement to our plans for inauguration weekend. all-day coverage. you can tune in on sunday and monday for activities monday all day starting at 7:00 a.m. and sunday for the official swearing in at the white house. again, if you want more information
with regard to the debt ceiling, here we go again. the republican party, if it goes along with this deal in my opinion ought to change its name to the caveman party and boehner and mcconnell would be the cavemen in chief, because every time we come to this debt ceiling what do the republicans do? they give in. and every amount of money that this country spends is showing it's unsustainable. we've got to reform them and get our budget in order and we've got to get our spending under control....
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was in january until we get to march, when we get to the debt ceiling conversation, when these entitlement cuts are on the table. i've said many times that budgets are moral documents. budgets are moral documents. when we get to this kind of debate in march about the entitlement cuts, then we're going to see how good this deal in january allegedly was. but something is wrong economic policy has you teetering on cliffs and bumping up against ceilings. that is no way to run the country or prioritize poverty. the bottom line is, president obama should do, number one, a o major public policy address on the eradication of poverty. he starts out as the committee organizer, speaks eloquently about dr. king, has a bust of dr. king in the white house oval office, will be inaugurated on king's holiday. what are we going to do about pushing our president to give a major public policy address on the eradication of poverty? no. 2, then to call and convened a white house conference on the eradication of poverty by bringing the experts together, creed and national plan that can cut poverty in half in 10
was in january until we get to march, when we get to the debt ceiling conversation, when these entitlement cuts are on the table. i've said many times that budgets are moral documents. budgets are moral documents. when we get to this kind of debate in march about the entitlement cuts, then we're going to see how good this deal in january allegedly was. but something is wrong economic policy has you teetering on cliffs and bumping up against ceilings. that is no way to run the country or...
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. >> narrator: the new republicans in congress were threatening to vote against raising the debt ceiling. if congress didn't act by august 2, the federal government would be unable to pay its bills. >> in 2010, when all these republicans were running for congress, many of them avowed tea partiers and the rest of them riding the tea party wave, the subject of the impending debt ceiling came up frequently and virtually all of them campaigned saying... pledging not to raise the debt ceiling. >> narrator: early on, republican freshmen attended orientation sessions. republican strategist frank luntz ran one of them. >> and i asked the question, how many of you are going to vote for the debt ceiling? and only three or four of them raised their hands. and i said, if you vote for the debt ceiling, the people who put you in office are going to knock you out. >> if you vote for the debt ceiling, you're voting for your own death certificate, political death certificate. >> narrator: for his part, the president decided to try something new: personal politics. he figured he could connect to the repub
. >> narrator: the new republicans in congress were threatening to vote against raising the debt ceiling. if congress didn't act by august 2, the federal government would be unable to pay its bills. >> in 2010, when all these republicans were running for congress, many of them avowed tea partiers and the rest of them riding the tea party wave, the subject of the impending debt ceiling came up frequently and virtually all of them campaigned saying... pledging not to raise the debt...